In this episode, Duane speaks with Early Brunner, the founder of Recovery Demystified. Early shares their powerful journey of navigating addiction as a queer, neurodivergent (autistic) person growing up in a small town. They discuss why traditional recovery models like AA can feel alienating for marginalized groups and how science-based “Quit Lit,” neuroscience, and self-compassion provided the path to lasting sobriety.
Key Topics & Chapters
- [00:03] Introduction to Early Brunner Early introduces their background: growing up undiagnosed autistic in 90s Wisconsin, dealing with profound social rejection, and discovering substances at age 10 as a way to find social connection.
- [04:30] The 13-Year Struggle Early discusses the “vicious cycle” of trying to quit using willpower alone. They share the shame of failed attempts and the realization that the substances that once provided relief were now the primary source of their crippling anxiety.
- [14:05] The Turning Point: Beyond Willpower The shift began when Early found science-based resources like This Naked Mind by Annie Grace. Understanding the neuroscience of addiction helped them realize they weren’t “broken” or “powerless,” but rather dealing with a brain-based challenge that could be repaired.
- [23:34] The Birth of Recovery Demystified After working as an EMT and seeing the failures of the traditional medical system, Early felt called to create a space specifically for those with “complex identities”—queer and neurodivergent folks who face significantly higher rates of addiction due to systemic trauma.
- [33:44] Neurodivergence and Addiction A deep dive into why ADHD and Autistic individuals are more prone to substance use, focusing on lower baseline dopamine levels, sensory overload, and the “mashing of the dopamine button” to cope with a world not built for them.
- [36:10] Destigmatizing the Story Early explains the importance of looking at the “whole person,” including their childhood (ACEs score), rather than just their worst moments in active addiction.
Quotes
“Willpower is like a muscle, and muscles get tired over time… I think you need an ounce of willpower and about 25 pounds of everything else.” — Early Brunner
“One size fits all is not real. It’s not real for baseball caps, and it’s not real for recovery plans.” — Early Brunner
“The first step was asking: ‘What would someone who loves themself do?'” — Early Brunner
Resources Mentioned
- Book: This Naked Mind by Annie Grace
- Podcast: Recovery Elevator
- Concept: ACEs Score (Adverse Childhood Experiences)
Connect with Early Brunner
- Website: recoverydemystified.com
- Podcast: Recovery Demystified
- Social Media: @recoverydemystified (Instagram/Substack)
- Email: info@recoverydemystified.com
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